https://wiki.nottinghack.org.uk/index.php?title=Talk_is_Cheap&feed=atom&action=historyTalk is Cheap - Revision history2024-03-28T09:45:33ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.35.1https://wiki.nottinghack.org.uk/index.php?title=Talk_is_Cheap&diff=21602&oldid=prevJon at 19:48, 8 May 20192019-05-08T19:48:31Z<p></p>
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</table>Jonhttps://wiki.nottinghack.org.uk/index.php?title=Talk_is_Cheap&diff=19494&oldid=prevDanspencer101: hacknotice2019-03-06T00:38:48Z<p>hacknotice</p>
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</table>Danspencer101https://wiki.nottinghack.org.uk/index.php?title=Talk_is_Cheap&diff=17692&oldid=prevJon: banner2019-02-15T18:10:55Z<p>banner</p>
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</table>Jonhttps://wiki.nottinghack.org.uk/index.php?title=Talk_is_Cheap&diff=17690&oldid=prevJon: cheap talk2019-02-15T18:09:18Z<p>cheap talk</p>
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</table>Jonhttps://wiki.nottinghack.org.uk/index.php?title=Talk_is_Cheap&diff=3478&oldid=prevMarcus: Better link for the bikeshed anti-pattern2012-04-17T17:29:11Z<p>Better link for the bikeshed anti-pattern</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Talk is very cheap, and hackers love to gabble about stuff, and speculate on the directions a project could go in. Before you can say "Gantt chart", a relatively simple and practical project suddenly morphs into a massive technical specification for something that will, say, automatically display a tiny superfluous lolcat while performing its actual intended function. The person who just wants to get on with it may feel paralysed by the intentions and ambitions of others. [http://<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">hackerspaces</del>.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">org/wiki</del>/<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">The_Bikeshed_Anti-Pattern </del>The Bikeshed Anti-Pattern] is a good explanation of the problem.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Talk is very cheap, and hackers love to gabble about stuff, and speculate on the directions a project could go in. Before you can say "Gantt chart", a relatively simple and practical project suddenly morphs into a massive technical specification for something that will, say, automatically display a tiny superfluous lolcat while performing its actual intended function. The person who just wants to get on with it may feel paralysed by the intentions and ambitions of others. [http://<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">www</ins>.<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">bikeshed.com</ins>/ The Bikeshed Anti-Pattern] is a good explanation of the problem.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Marcushttps://wiki.nottinghack.org.uk/index.php?title=Talk_is_Cheap&diff=2402&oldid=prevLwk at 00:46, 18 November 20112011-11-18T00:46:11Z<p></p>
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</table>Lwkhttps://wiki.nottinghack.org.uk/index.php?title=Talk_is_Cheap&diff=1738&oldid=prevDavidhayward at 23:42, 28 July 20112011-07-28T23:42:55Z<p></p>
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</table>Davidhaywardhttps://wiki.nottinghack.org.uk/index.php?title=Talk_is_Cheap&diff=1735&oldid=prevDavidhayward at 21:52, 28 July 20112011-07-28T21:52:25Z<p></p>
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</table>Davidhaywardhttps://wiki.nottinghack.org.uk/index.php?title=Talk_is_Cheap&diff=1734&oldid=prevDavidhayward at 21:51, 28 July 20112011-07-28T21:51:19Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Talk is very cheap, and hackers love to gabble about stuff, and speculate on the directions a project could go in. Before you can say "Gantt chart", a relatively simple and practical project suddenly morphs into a massive technical specification for something that will, say, automatically display a tiny lolcat while performing its actual intended function. The person who just wants to get on with it may feel paralysed by the intentions and ambitions of others. [http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/The_Bikeshed_Anti-Pattern The Bikeshed Anti-Pattern] is a good explanation of the problem.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Talk is very cheap, and hackers love to gabble about stuff, and speculate on the directions a project could go in. Before you can say "Gantt chart", a relatively simple and practical project suddenly morphs into a massive technical specification for something that will, say, automatically display a tiny <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">superfluous </ins>lolcat while performing its actual intended function. The person who just wants to get on with it may feel paralysed by the intentions and ambitions of others. [http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/The_Bikeshed_Anti-Pattern The Bikeshed Anti-Pattern] is a good explanation of the problem.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Davidhaywardhttps://wiki.nottinghack.org.uk/index.php?title=Talk_is_Cheap&diff=1733&oldid=prevDavidhayward: Created page with "Rule 3 is becoming an important part of the culture of Nottingham Hackspace. Talk is very cheap, and hackers love to gabble about stuff, and speculate on the directions a projec..."2011-07-28T21:45:36Z<p>Created page with "Rule 3 is becoming an important part of the culture of Nottingham Hackspace. Talk is very cheap, and hackers love to gabble about stuff, and speculate on the directions a projec..."</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>Rule 3 is becoming an important part of the culture of Nottingham Hackspace.<br />
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Talk is very cheap, and hackers love to gabble about stuff, and speculate on the directions a project could go in. Before you can say "Gantt chart", a relatively simple and practical project suddenly morphs into a massive technical specification for something that will, say, automatically display a tiny lolcat while performing its actual intended function. The person who just wants to get on with it may feel paralysed by the intentions and ambitions of others. [http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/The_Bikeshed_Anti-Pattern The Bikeshed Anti-Pattern] is a good explanation of the problem.<br />
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When it's not a contentious issue, doing stuff counts far more than talking about stuff. If you'r actually doing the thing, and it won't interfere with infrastructure or other hackers, then your opinion generally counts a lot more than the kind of idle speculation we're all prone to firing at ideas on the mailing list.<br />
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There are several ways to interpret Rule 3:<br />
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* Don't mistake speculation for intention.<br />
* Just get on with it.<br />
* If you're doing something awesome, you probably don't need permission from anyone else.<br />
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Rule 3 is not carte blanche to do whatever you like; all members are expected to take other members into account. However, don't be put off doing something simple just because people have more ambitious ideas.</div>Davidhayward