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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:05</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Nottinghack members meeting about to start, 06/02/2013. Roll call: David H, Dominic M, James H, Matt Ll, David C, Jake H, Michelle S, James F, Russell H, Daniel, Gill Z, Michael E, Lionel, Ian D, Michael W.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:06</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Roll call: David H, James H, Lionel, Eddie P, Adam F, David C, Justin, Rob H, Daniel, Matt Ll, Dominic M
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:05</span>||<span style="color: #FF1300"></span>|| gmjhowe joined the chat room.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:07</span>||<span style="color: #FF1300">KateMonkey</span>||Do I count as being here?
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:05</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Kate B joins.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:07</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||2. Actions list.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:05</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Item 1: Action update.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:07</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Setup consumables team: Done.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:05</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||1. Pick up club mate: No. dominic: Going to manchester in future, but no schedule.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:08</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Matt Lloyd, access to bank account. Not done yet.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:06</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||2. Organise Festivus party. (Huh. Done).
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:08</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||James: 23 days until AGM. Dominic: Could sort out after. James: Pretty wrong to have no board members with access to bank account.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:06</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||3. Cleaning quote: Not asked Joyce yet. Dominic: Does David C fancy asking?
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:09</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Draft expenses policy for list, David H: Draft done, not posted yet. David H: Probably ok to post now.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:06</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Adam F joins
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:09</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||KateMonkey: Any progress on quotes for stickers?
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:06</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Matt Little joins
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:10</span>||<span style="color: #FF1300">KateMonkey</span>||Haven't had a chance.  But I'll sort it this month.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:06</span>||<span style="color: #FF1300"></span>|| Aeish joined the chat room.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:11</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Matt Lloyd got quotes for shelves. David C updated actions list. David H: Already resolved to pay for them a few meetings back. James H: Anyone want to take on building? David H: Max and I want to, but have not time until after May 10th. David C: Figure is £68.52 with 20% discount if we order this week. Happy to do order.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:07</span>||<span style="color: #FF1300"></span>|| Aeish is now known as Froggy.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:11</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Dominic: Quote for servicing knitting machines. Have been given contact, but he's not local. Can still look into.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:07</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||4. Buy event shelter in February. Dominic: Can borrow mine at any point. We should probably wait until May. Kate: If the weather is good, we might sell out.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:12</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Adam F: Print pictures: Done, will appear tomorrow night.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:08</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Kate: They're heavy, need a driver to take to events too.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:12</span>||<span style="color: #3E13AF"></span>|| Robh01 joined the chat room.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:08</span>||<span style="color: #FF1300"></span>|| msemtd joined the chat room.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:12</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||3. Financial update: Not ready tonight.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:08</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||5. Liase with other hackspaces re: maker faire. Dominic: Ongoing. Kate: Nottinghack application has been accepted. Asked to be near UK makerspaces, but no details on that yet.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:13</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||4. Quorum: Do we need 4 board members to make decisions?
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:10</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||6. Cost new shelves for members room: Matt Lloyd - prices added to wiki. Need to look at trade prices from Travis Perkins. David C: £68.52 from TRavis Perkins, 18mm ply.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:13</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||David H: Going by our constitution, yes.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:11</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Delivery £18, but rep said free delivery.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:13</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||James: Does being on IRC count toward being quorate?
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:12</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||7. Hackspace video: David and Jake to list members with projects needed for cutaways.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:14</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Dominic: THings can be decided on pretty quickly.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:13</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Dominic: We're going to be on BBC Click on the 16th Feb, in LeftLion next month. Would be good to get it done before either.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:14</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||David H: I don't think IRC counts toward being quorate, because may be missing context.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:15</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||8. Draft Expenses policy posted to list: Not done due to conflict on list. On wiki though.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:15</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||I do think members should be able to hold meetings without board members: Consumables group a good experiment in this regard, they have decision making power and a budget of their own.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:15</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||9. Talk to Wendy about lathe expenses for wood lathe: Done.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:15</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||5. A.O.B.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:15</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||10. Pay David Clarke's expenses for wood lathe: Done.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:16</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||5a: Eddie P: People not cleaning up after themselves. Came in to use the laser, and it was in a state. Also see people using woodworking machinery, and not cleaning up their mess. What can we do about this?
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:15</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||11. Email list regarding historic wood lathe pledges. Done.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:16</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Dominic: What would you suggest?
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:16</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||12. Pillar drill: Done.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:17</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||continues: No real answer to this. It's everyone's job, and it's everybody's job to make sure others clean up after themselves. We should feel empowered to challenge this kind of behaviour directly, and be able to face up to have our own behaviours challenged.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:16</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||13. Quotes for stickers: Kate, not done yet.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:17</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||James H: Kind of like living in a shared house, we're always going to have this problem to an extent.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:17</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||14: Masks and PPE: Mouse away, not done yet. No filters for spray mask yet.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:18</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Dominic: I encounter other people's messes too, and I've sometimes left messes myself: Not because I'm trying to get away with it, but just because I got distracted by something. Also, people have different standards of tidy.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:17</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||15. Guidance for new members: Kate and David: Drafted, needs more work.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:21</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||David H: Might help to produce documentation, i.e. a lot of members don't know to empty the bins in the courtyard, or how to get there.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:18</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||16. Acquire parts draws and stock of fixings, David C: Parts drawers acquired and up, first batch of fixings ordered today. Another order next week.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:21</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Dominic: Yes, but doesn't solve whole problem. David C: People still leave wood shavings, etc.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:19</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||would like to include in that: A couple of thousand suitably sized labels. Still money for that left in budget.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:22</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Dominic: It comes down to having to challenge that sort of behaviour.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:19</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||17. Buy large gas cannister for welding: Russell. Not done yet.
|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:23</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||James: Any other A.O.B? No? Any takers? Anyone? No? Okay, meeting closed. Shortest board meeting ever.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:19</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||18. Documentations for young hackers, James H. Written, but not posted yet.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:19</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||19. Research lone worker alarm device, Dominic: Not done.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:20</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||20. Monthly snackspace run: James and Dominic: Done.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:20</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||21. Re-run numbers on hackspace loan.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:20</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||(Matt Lloyd - not done yet)
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:21</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||22. Make offer on CNC machine: David H: Done, budget agreed at board meeting was too low for Ash.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:21</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||23. Obtain quote for servicing knitting machines: Dominic. Not done. Kate: We have people interested in looking at them and giving demos.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:22</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||24. Produce Do not hack guidance. Dominic: Written, but not posted yet because of mailing list troubles.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:23</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Actions done for now.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:23</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Item 3: Financial update.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:23</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Matt: Not today.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:23</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Jake: No, you misunderstand. We've got to the point in the agenda where…
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:23</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Matt: Um, we spent some money, we got new members…
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:24</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Jake: Oh, this is the big overview is it?
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:24</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Some laughter.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:24</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Matt: Sorry, can't right now because the spreadsheet take a lot of work to update. Dominic: Well we shouldn't agree any expenditure at this meeting then.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:24</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Item 4: Wall of faces. Kate: Have been pricing up cork tiles.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:25</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Jake: Well unfortunately this is expenditure we could do with agreeing tonight. About £70 for shelves and £30 for cork.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:25</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Kate: Matt just found a stack of cork tiles for £9.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:26</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||When we mentioned this on the list, someone said they'd make a frame for it. We could just do that, and glue it, nail it, whatever you do to stick the cork on that wall.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:27</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Dominic: I think David Clarke is going to explode.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:27</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||(some discussion about sticking them on a board rather than directly to the wall).
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:27</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Agreed for Matt to buy one pack of floor tiles for £9.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:28</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Jake: What about the shelves?
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:28</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||David H: Member count is 144 at present. We can probably afford those shelves.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:29</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Dominic: There are a bunch of ex-members boxes in there. Do we need to do it now?
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:29</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||James: We have to wait a few months though, because we can't just throw people's shit away immediately.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:30</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||James: Do we need to do it this month? When will the mill be done? That accounts for availability of the shelf builder…
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:30</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Dominic: Probably don't need to do anything on this before the 1st of March.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:30</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||No objections.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:31</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Michael E: Still on wall of faces. We're not actually getting the thing done. We should just be putting pictures up regardless of cork. I'd like people to add more to the wiki page so we can stick them up.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:32</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Jake: If people don't have pictures of themselves they like, I can take nice portraits.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:32</span>||<span style="color: #3E13AF">NondoX</span>||sorry im late hotel wifi is pants.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:32</span>||<span style="color: #3E13AF">NondoX</span>||is there a camera available at teh hackspace to take `wall of faces` pics with?
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:32</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||(I'll email the minutes out later Tom)
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:32</span>||<span style="color: #3E13AF">NondoX</span>||ok
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:33</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Action: Adam F: Prit loads of images off flickr to go on the wall of faces.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:33</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||*print
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:33</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Item 5. Superfast broadband. Daniel: That's it really do we want superfast broadband? Everyone: Yes. Wait. How much extra?
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:34</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Daniel: £20 extra per month, 24 month contract.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:34</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Dominic: There will still be a hackspace in 24 months. We should have the best broadband we can get.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:35</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||James: We don't need to be in a contract like that to get fast broadband. Need to look into costs like switching, moving, etc.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:36</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||James: My worry is whether we could move with the contract. Whose name is it in? Dominic: Nottingham Hackspace ltd.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:36</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||James: Let's do it then.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:36</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Russell: Friend of mine has two dark fibres that ring the country, looking for a business to use it in Nottingham. 24 month commitment might preclude us from that.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:37</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Dominic: Price it up as an option.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:37</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Jake: Is this something that can wait a month? People: Yes, requires more research.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:37</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Action: Daniel to do more research and present at the next meeting.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:38</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||James: Wifi is getting quite overloaded on the open hack nights now. 250 IP addresses, the number of devices people are bringing is actually close to using it up. Need to fix it.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:39</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||David: Wifi in workshop completely broken too.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:39</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Item 6: A.O.B.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:39</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Adam F: Gemucon coming up in Nottingham, have a lot of cosplayers. They could do with a workshop with glue guns etc. to stick bits of costumes together. Sent them email.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:40</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Would be a good opportunity to promote the hackspace. Dominic: Possibly have a fringe event at the hackspace.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:40</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Kate: Can sort a fix-it-kit.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:41</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||AOB from Dominic: propose we have a hack the website day. Well, not hack it, you know what I mean.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:41</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Upcoming media focus, there's a bunch of information that's out of date. We should clean it up before we're getting all of that promotion.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:42</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Suggest we come in on a weekend day, get a load of pizzas, all sort it out.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:44</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Dominic calls for people to step up. *tumbleweed*
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:44</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Matt Little: There's an arduino workshop being run by people other than the main core of active members.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:44</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Dominic: Keen for more people to get involved in doing stuff.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:46</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Kate suggests 13th, 14th, or 15th. James: 14th is open hack.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:47</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Michael: It's as quick to make the fix as it is to write it down for someone else to do. Kate: Not the case for all pages.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:47</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||James: Michael, that doesn't empower other people to feel like they can do stuff.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:48</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Dominic: We've got this media stuff coming up, the website needs fixing.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:48</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||Michael W: Getting together would allow us to do some look and feel work. Website doesn't work really well on low end devices, might be able to work on that.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:49</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||(Some people could do the 15th).
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:50</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||General agreement: Friday the 15th. Mchael E: We have a website page on the wiki, and a to do list. Can see problems already, but don't have access to fix necessarily.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:51</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||So I'll update the to do list. Dominic: Kate has been updating for the past few months, and without that, we'd have nothing new up there.
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|<span style="color: #AAAAAA">20:52</span>||<span style="color: #00C322">Nachimir</span>||End of A.O.B. Meeting closed.
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Latest revision as of 10:12, 4 November 2021

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20:06 Nachimir Roll call: David H, James H, Lionel, Eddie P, Adam F, David C, Justin, Rob H, Daniel, Matt Ll, Dominic M
20:07 KateMonkey Do I count as being here?
20:07 Nachimir 2. Actions list.
20:07 Nachimir Setup consumables team: Done.
20:08 Nachimir Matt Lloyd, access to bank account. Not done yet.
20:08 Nachimir James: 23 days until AGM. Dominic: Could sort out after. James: Pretty wrong to have no board members with access to bank account.
20:09 Nachimir Draft expenses policy for list, David H: Draft done, not posted yet. David H: Probably ok to post now.
20:09 Nachimir KateMonkey: Any progress on quotes for stickers?
20:10 KateMonkey Haven't had a chance. But I'll sort it this month.
20:11 Nachimir Matt Lloyd got quotes for shelves. David C updated actions list. David H: Already resolved to pay for them a few meetings back. James H: Anyone want to take on building? David H: Max and I want to, but have not time until after May 10th. David C: Figure is £68.52 with 20% discount if we order this week. Happy to do order.
20:11 Nachimir Dominic: Quote for servicing knitting machines. Have been given contact, but he's not local. Can still look into.
20:12 Nachimir Adam F: Print pictures: Done, will appear tomorrow night.
20:12 Robh01 joined the chat room.
20:12 Nachimir 3. Financial update: Not ready tonight.
20:13 Nachimir 4. Quorum: Do we need 4 board members to make decisions?
20:13 Nachimir David H: Going by our constitution, yes.
20:13 Nachimir James: Does being on IRC count toward being quorate?
20:14 Nachimir Dominic: THings can be decided on pretty quickly.
20:14 Nachimir David H: I don't think IRC counts toward being quorate, because may be missing context.
20:15 Nachimir I do think members should be able to hold meetings without board members: Consumables group a good experiment in this regard, they have decision making power and a budget of their own.
20:15 Nachimir 5. A.O.B.
20:16 Nachimir 5a: Eddie P: People not cleaning up after themselves. Came in to use the laser, and it was in a state. Also see people using woodworking machinery, and not cleaning up their mess. What can we do about this?
20:16 Nachimir Dominic: What would you suggest?
20:17 Nachimir continues: No real answer to this. It's everyone's job, and it's everybody's job to make sure others clean up after themselves. We should feel empowered to challenge this kind of behaviour directly, and be able to face up to have our own behaviours challenged.
20:17 Nachimir James H: Kind of like living in a shared house, we're always going to have this problem to an extent.
20:18 Nachimir Dominic: I encounter other people's messes too, and I've sometimes left messes myself: Not because I'm trying to get away with it, but just because I got distracted by something. Also, people have different standards of tidy.
20:21 Nachimir David H: Might help to produce documentation, i.e. a lot of members don't know to empty the bins in the courtyard, or how to get there.
20:21 Nachimir Dominic: Yes, but doesn't solve whole problem. David C: People still leave wood shavings, etc.
20:22 Nachimir Dominic: It comes down to having to challenge that sort of behaviour.
20:23 Nachimir James: Any other A.O.B? No? Any takers? Anyone? No? Okay, meeting closed. Shortest board meeting ever.