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Each LED module contains an 8x7 grid of LEDs.
Each LED module contains an 8x7 grid of LEDs. It looks like the module could take 8x8, but maybe the font used wouldn't benefit from having an extra row.
 
(need to check) the negatives of each column are connected together. The positives of each row are connected together.
 
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p4 n n p3 n n p2 n n p1 n n
 
o o o o o o o o      row 1 (via p1 top)
o o o o o o o o      row 2 (via p2 top)
o o o o o o o o      row 3 (via p3 top)
o o o o o o o o      row 4 (via p4 top)
 
o o o o o o o o      row 1 (via p1 bottom)
o o o o o o o o      row 2 (via p2 bottom)
o o o o o o o o      row 3 (via p3 bottom)
x x x x x x x x      row 4 (via p4 bottom, not populated)
 
p4 n n p3 n n p2 n n p1 n n
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                   s
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==== Random Commentary and Confusion ====
I'm not really sure what the BCD decoder and source driver is for, but there aren't enough outputs on the shift registers to drive the LEDs directly, so they must be doing some kind of multiplexing somewhere.
'''The LED Modules are multiplexed?''' I'm not sure what the practical reason for this is, but the MOSFETs are spread across the board, so that there is one nearby each LED module.
'''Each shift register only does 3 or 4 rows?''' They would have gotten better performance by halving the number of shift registers (since this would only require 3 or 4 bits from each register), and performance appears to be important since they are running two shift registers in parallel. This would mean that the MOSFETs were multiplexing the columns (since there are 8 columns and 8 MOSFETS), but from what I could measure, the MOSFET was sourcing 5v. The MIC5821BN also sources 5v, so where would the ground be...





Revision as of 22:08, 13 January 2024

In upstairs metalworking there is a train station display - photos on flickr


Parts

LED Module

Each LED module contains an 8x7 grid of LEDs. It looks like the module could take 8x8, but maybe the font used wouldn't benefit from having an extra row.

(need to check) the negatives of each column are connected together. The positives of each row are connected together.

p4 n n p3 n n p2 n n p1 n n

o o o o o o o o      row 1 (via p1 top)
o o o o o o o o      row 2 (via p2 top)
o o o o o o o o      row 3 (via p3 top)
o o o o o o o o      row 4 (via p4 top)

o o o o o o o o      row 1 (via p1 bottom)
o o o o o o o o      row 2 (via p2 bottom)
o o o o o o o o      row 3 (via p3 bottom)
x x x x x x x x      row 4 (via p4 bottom, not populated)

p4 n n p3 n n p2 n n p1 n n


LED Module Backplane

Each backplane holds 8 LED modules. There is a 14 pin IDC header on the right of each board, these go to a CD74HCT541E octal buffer.

Input IDC header (as viewed from the solder side)

     +-----+
GND -| o o |- A0
GND -| o o |- A1
GND -| o o |- A2
?   -| o o |- A3
GND -| o o |- A4
 A7 -| o o |- A5
GND -| o o |- A6
     +-----+

CD74HCT541E

    V O 
    c E Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y     <---- outputs
    c 2 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7  
  +---------------------+
  |>   CD74HCT541E      |
  +---------------------+
    O A A A A A A A A G
    E 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 N     <--- inputs
    1                 D

Some of the output lines from the line driver go to the shift registers, while others go to a BCD decoder. Each LED Module has two shift registers which are both updated on each clock pulse.

CD74HCT541E Outputs

Y0 - All shift registers, CLOCK
Y1 - Bottom shift register of LED Module 0, Data In
Y2 - BCD Decoder "A"
Y3 - BCD Decoder "B"
Y4 - BCD Decoder "C"
Y5 - BCD Decoder "D"
Y6 - All shift registers, STROBE
Y7 - Top shift register of LED Module 1, Data In

The shift registers used are CMOS MIC5821BN

MIC5821BN

     O O O O O O O O
     1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
   +-----------------+
   |> MIC5821BN      |
   +-----------------+
     C S V V S S O V
     L i s d o T E e
     K   s d   B   e

Vss, OE and Vee are all tied to ground.
Si is serial in and connects to either Y1 or Y2 of the line driver, or to So of the previous shift register.

(Need to verify) The BCD decoder (CD4028BCN) is used to turn on/off each LED Module's MOSFET (IRF540) via a source driver UDN2981A.

    V
    d
    d 3 1 B C D A 8
  +-----------------+
  |>  CD4028BCN     |
  +-----------------+
    4 2 0 7 9 5 6 V
                  s
                  s

                    G
                    N
    . . . . . . . . D 
  +-------------------+
  |>  UDN2981A        |
  +-------------------+
   . . . . . . . . V
                   s

Random Commentary and Confusion

I'm not really sure what the BCD decoder and source driver is for, but there aren't enough outputs on the shift registers to drive the LEDs directly, so they must be doing some kind of multiplexing somewhere.

The LED Modules are multiplexed? I'm not sure what the practical reason for this is, but the MOSFETs are spread across the board, so that there is one nearby each LED module.

Each shift register only does 3 or 4 rows? They would have gotten better performance by halving the number of shift registers (since this would only require 3 or 4 bits from each register), and performance appears to be important since they are running two shift registers in parallel. This would mean that the MOSFETs were multiplexing the columns (since there are 8 columns and 8 MOSFETS), but from what I could measure, the MOSFET was sourcing 5v. The MIC5821BN also sources 5v, so where would the ground be...



Backplane Frame

Each LED Module Backplane is arranged on the backplane frame.

The backplanes are grouped into two. The first group drives 6x8 LED Module backplanes (total of 2688 LEDs) and the second drives 4x8 LED Module backplanes (1792 LEDs). In total there are 4480 LEDs per side.

+------------------+------------------+------------------+
|  A2              |  A1              |   A0             |  <--- Input
+------------------+------------------+------------------+
|  A5              |  A4              |   A3             |
+------------------+------------------+------------------+
|  B2              |  B1              |   B0             |  <--- Input
+------------------+------------------+------------------+
                   |  B3              |
                   +------------------+