Talk:Wall of Faces

Strong Objections

It reinforces feelings of social exclusion - A wall of white male faces is inevitable, at least in the short term, and this will evoke feelings of exclusion. To have a diverse community, we need to make people feel they belong, and a Wall of Faces is unhelpful here.

It contributes to an ego-rich environment - Where people project their egos into the space, and pat themselves on the back for doing it in an elaborate way.

It is not appropriate for our environment - A wall of mugshots is typical on a school, university, or 'rugby club' wall. The hackspace should appeal to people who want to get away from the conventions of institutions like this.

You already know this Wall of Faces will upset some regular users of the hackspace - These objections have already been expressed for a long time, so it's not clear why these elaborate (and apparently pointless) plans have been made. Disputes like this are sapping energy from more worthwhile projects.

No, no, and no! These objections may have been expressed but that doesn't mean that everyone will agree. There is nothing wrong with elaborate and pointless plans and there is no energy being sapped from more worthwhile projects (otherwise we'd all be concentrating on, say, curing cancer would we not?) --Michael Erskine 08:21, 4 April 2012 (EST)

These comments should be on the "discussion" page. --Dominic 08:53, 4 April 2012 (EST)

Strong objections to your strong objections

I would think it should be acceptable to opt out of having ones picture placed here, in fact I'd be pleased to see avatars or logos of people, or even just their names. This *could* point to their twitter name or whatever.

Why do we get bogged down like this, NOT doing stuff is rubbish. This is a permissive group, it feels like the worst kind of nanny state sometimes.

I have never seen a wall of "mug shots" on anyone wall ever... what rubbish. I DO recall that the Thunderbirds and Hogwarts has pictures on the wall! How cool!!!

We really DO need to try harder to advertise the Hackspace to a wide and diverse range of people, however I do not feel that the diversity of the group is ONLY defined by gender and skin colour (or obvious physical differences) why can't we continue to be naïve and just enjoy making stuff… this is pictures that light up, it’s not a knife a bomb or a gun. This doesn’t kill babies.

--Dominic 08:31, 4 April 2012 (EST)

Some notes on strong objections and strong objections to strong objections

I think it's important that being on it is entirely optional, and there's no sense of peer pressure to buy a kit and put yourself up there - in *any* form; faces or twitter names or whatever. This board should be entirely an opt-in thing --Davidhayward 09:26, 4 April 2012 (EST)

I am probably not going to put myself up on this board, but it doesn't bother me in the least that it will be there or that other people want to be on it. It bothers me to see so much stuff being fought on grounds of everyday politics and ideals. I say that with a good understanding of anarchy too, not the mistaken belief that it's functionally identical to chaos --Davidhayward 09:26, 4 April 2012 (EST)

I find the idea that people are going to project their egos across the hackspace by means of a lit up square inch on the wall a bit ridiculous. People can give their egos a much bigger stroke than that already, on here or the mailing list. --Davidhayward 09:26, 4 April 2012 (EST)