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== Fire Pong ==
== Fire Pong ==


For EMF 2016, a small group of us are working on a series of fire effects to be incorporated into an interactive game of some sort (provisionally "pong").  
For EMF 2016, a small group of us are working on a series of fire effects to be incorporated into an interactive game of some sort (provisionally "pong").  This project was inspired by Mouse's Burning Man experiences (which he never shuts up about), and a conversation on the matter with Jonty (London Hackspace) where he suggested a game of pong.  Jonty's too busy organising EMF to join the build, but is credited with the idea of pong as the game to be made.


=== Puffers (a.k.a. "Poofers") ===
See also: [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1hH7KGYgiMChjqEzuECa8e5pJw0xeeIAAZUcAsqElpqE/edit?usp=sharing Call For Collaborators] presentation.


Puffers consist of an "accumulator" tank (usually an empty gas bottle), which is filled from a "feed" tank (a full propane bottle).  The supply is regulated to somewhere up to 60 PSI.  The accumulator tank is connected to a long "barrel" through a large-bore value which can open and close quickly.  This may be a manual ball value or an electronic solenoid value.  The accumulator tank is also connected to a pilot flame at the end of the barrel, through a low-pressure regulator.
=== Costs & Funding ===


When the ball/solenoid value is opened, the medium pressure propane in the accumulator tank shoots up the barrel, and is ignited at the end by the pilot flame. This creates a brief "puff" of fire.
List of purchases moved to [[Project:Fire Pong/Accounting|Accounting]] page & funding sources added there too. [[User:Mousetad|Mouse]] ([[User talk:Mousetad|talk]]) 12:18, 15 June 2016 (UTC)


Puffers come in many sizes from hand-held to truck-mounted, and can create a puff from a few tens of centimeters tall to anything up to and exceeding 10 meters!
=== Sub-projects ===


=== Component Prices ===
The project is split into a series of smaller sub-projects. We're looking for people to volunteer to take some of them on. If you contribute to a sub-project, please add yourself to the sub-project page.  If you are the first / only person working on a sub-project, put yourself down as the sub-project owner.  [[User:Mousetad|Mouse]] will act as the main hub for coordination of sub-projects (defining interfaces and so on, and generally OKing designs).


For the prototype, we need the following parts:
* [[Fire Pong/Controllers|Oversize ping pong bat controllers]]  
{| class="wikitable"
* [[Fire Pong/Control Box|Control box]]
|-
* [[Fire Pong/Display|Display]]
! Component description !! Price !! Link !! Bought by !! Qty !! Cost inc shipping
* [[Fire Pong/Supply & Regulation|Supply & Regulation]]
|-
* [[Fire Pong/Large Puffers|Large puffers]]
| Adjustable 60 PSI regulator || £14 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400903780397 ebay] || Ian || 1 || £14
* [[Fire Pong/Small Puffers|Small puffers]]
|-
* [[Fire Pong/Crowd Control|Crowd control]]
| Adjustable 60 PSI regulator (alternative, cheaper) Inlet Male UK Pol 5/8 BSP LH Outlet 1/4" BSP female || £11 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181864447500 ebay] || || ||
* [[Fire Pong/Systems Integration|Systems integration]]
|-
* [[Fire Pong/Volunteer Management|Volunteer management]]
| Adjustable 60 PSI regulator (alternative, even cheaper) PROPANE BUTANE BURNER TORCH ADJUSTABLE GAS REGULATOR 0.5-4 Bar || £9.35|| [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221271724791 ebay] || || ||
|-
| Propane hose 2 m with connectors (3/8 inch female left-hand thread) || £9.45 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brand-New-2m-Butane-Propane-Gas-Hose-With-Connectors-20bar-BS-EN-ISO-3821-2010-/231466082709 ebay] || Ian || 1 || £9.45
|-
| Four way splitters, OR... || £10 + £12 P&P || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230933312354 ebay / US import] || || 2 ||
|-
| ...Equal-T joints || £~ || [http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/Compression_Equal_Tees.html Gas Products] || Mouse || 3 || £11.48
|-
| Propane Tee Brass RV Fitting 3/8 Male Flare x 3/8 Male Flare x 1/4 Male Pipe || £10 + £4 P&P || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111257707741 ebay] || || ||
|-
| Medium pressure gauge || £ || || || ||
|-
| Manual ball / cutoff valve || £4.63 + £4.74 p&p || [http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/Compression_Full_Bore_Gas_Ball_Valve_22mm.html#aHA9621] || Mouse || 1 || £9.03
|-
| Small / portable propane tank 3.9 kg || £20.49 (gas, exc. deposit) || Beeston Marina || Ian || 1 || £20.49
|-
| PTFE Gas Thread Sealing Tape || £0.60 || [http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/PTFE_Gas_Thread_Sealing_Tape.html#aHA356 Gas Products] || Mouse || 2 || £3.45
|-
| Compressed gas GHS labels (x24) || £6.95 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Compressed-Gas-Labels-GHS-Regulation-Labels-Small-/261578224740 ebay] || Mouse || 1 || £6.95
|-
| Flammable GHS labels (x24) || £6.95 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flammable-Labels-GHS-Regulation-Labels-Small-/251631064114 ebay] || Mouse || 1 || £6.95
|-
| 22mm pipe cutter || £6.50 || [https://www.yell.com/biz/fix-it-all-ltd-nottingham-5927596/ fix it all] || Mouse || 1 || £6.50
|-
| 22mm copper pipe (per metre) || £4.65 || [https://www.yell.com/biz/fix-it-all-ltd-nottingham-5927596/ fix it all] || Mouse || 2 || £9.30
|-
| plumbers spanner (for 22/15 mm compression fitting nuts || £1.99 || [https://www.yell.com/biz/fix-it-all-ltd-nottingham-5927596/ fix it all] || Mouse || 1 || £1.99
|-
| 20mm pipe screen gauze (hopefully can solder it into the end of the barrel) || £2.15 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171484735149 ebay] || Mouse || 1 || £2.15
|-
| 22mm compression end caps || £1.25 || [https://www.yell.com/biz/fix-it-all-ltd-nottingham-5927596/ fix it all] || Mouse || 4 || £5.00
|-
| Dry power fire extinguisher || £11.79 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390860477840 ebay] ||  || 2 ||
|-
| 24" Pipe Wrench || £24.99 || [http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001OX9WTW?ref_=cm_sw_r_awd_IjTNwbRHVY3MP amazon] || Toby || 1 || £24.99
|-
| 22 mm olives (pack of 20) || £3.87 || B&Q || Ian || 1 || £3.87
|-
| 22 mm equal T || £4.37 || B&Q || Ian || 1 || £4.37
|-
| 1/4" gas solenoid valve 12V || £8.99 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291542004700 eBay] || Ian || 2 || £17.98
|-
| 1/4" to 15 mm solder ring adaptor (pack of 10) || £17.75 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291204518251 eBay] || Ian || 1 || £17.75
|-
| Electric BBQ igniter (2 electrodes) || £18.99 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331483455100 eBay] || Mouse || 1 || £18.99
|-
|Flash back arrestor || £12.00 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321545145267 eBay] || Ian || 1 || £12.00
|-
|Pilot light funnel || £8.00 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231450919702 eBay] || Mouse || 1 || £9.79
|-
|Black Iron 1/4" Equal T Female|| £2.53 || [http://www.bssindustrial.co.uk/ BSS] || Mouse || 1 || £2.53
|-
|Black Iron 1/4" Elbow Female|| £3.91 || [http://www.bssindustrial.co.uk/ BSS] || Mouse || 2 || £7.82
|-
|Black Iron 1/2" Nipple (2" long)|| £2.12 || [http://www.bssindustrial.co.uk/ BSS] || Mouse || 1 || £2.12
|-
|Black Iron 1/2" Equal T female|| £1.98 || [http://www.bssindustrial.co.uk/ BSS] || Mouse || 1 || £1.98
|-
|Black Iron 1/2" Stop Plug|| £0.97 || [http://www.bssindustrial.co.uk/ BSS] || Mouse || 1 || £0.97
|-
|25mm by 300mm Mild Steel Round Bar (for making tank adapters) || £9.99 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171989924756 eBay] || Mouse || 1 || £9.99
|}


=== Contributers ===
=== Procedures & Docs ===
* [[User:Mousetad|Mouse]]
* [[User:Iandickinson|Ian]]
* [[Toby]]


=== Links ===
* [[Project:Fire Pong/Packing List]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong/Setup Procedure]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong/Playlist]]
 
=== Meetings ===
* [[EMF 2016 Meeting 2015-12-10|2015-12-10]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-01-18|2016-01-18]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-01-23|2016-01-23]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-05-19|2016-05-19]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-06-08|2016-06-08]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-06-09|2016-06-09]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-06-11|2016-06-11]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-06-16|2016-06-16]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-06-18|2016-06-18]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-06-19|2016-06-19]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-07-03|2016-07-03]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-07-08|2016-07-08]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-07-14|2016-07-14]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-07-16|2016-07-16]]
 
=== Related Links ===
* Chat about the project happens periodically on the [https://nottinghack.slack.com/messages/emf/ EMF channel on Nottinghack slack]
* Chat about the project happens periodically on the [https://nottinghack.slack.com/messages/emf/ EMF channel on Nottinghack slack]
* Video of some nice puffers on [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMfzFIERJIg El Pulpo Mechanico]
* Video of some nice puffers on [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMfzFIERJIg El Pulpo Mechanico]
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* [https://www.facebook.com/BurningManPooferFireEffects/ facebook group devoted to fire effects DIY]
* [https://www.facebook.com/BurningManPooferFireEffects/ facebook group devoted to fire effects DIY]
* [http://burningman.org/event/art-performance/fire-art-guidelines/flame-effects/ Burning Man Flame Effects Guidelines]
* [http://burningman.org/event/art-performance/fire-art-guidelines/flame-effects/ Burning Man Flame Effects Guidelines]
* [http://www.newmantools.com/taps/bsp.htm BSP thread info]
== Events ==
To date, Fire Pong has been run at the following events:
* EMF Camp 2016
== Media ==
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6EBe_5LxO8 Fire Pong (Rule Zero) (Computerphile, 5min, 2016)]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoZMMg1r_Oc Fire Pong Details (Computerphile, 20min, 2016)]
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLau-MAHAOY
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKLKDHJ3wZA  360 degree video (2min)]
* https://hackaday.com/2016/08/11/emf-fire-pong/
* https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/fire-pong-raspberry-pi/


=== Meetings ===
[[Category:Projects]]
* [[EMF 2016 Meeting 2015-12-10]]
[[Category:Featured]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-01-18|2016-01-18]]
[[Category:Fire]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-01-23|2016-01-23]]

Latest revision as of 09:23, 11 January 2020

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Fire Pong

For EMF 2016, a small group of us are working on a series of fire effects to be incorporated into an interactive game of some sort (provisionally "pong"). This project was inspired by Mouse's Burning Man experiences (which he never shuts up about), and a conversation on the matter with Jonty (London Hackspace) where he suggested a game of pong. Jonty's too busy organising EMF to join the build, but is credited with the idea of pong as the game to be made.

See also: Call For Collaborators presentation.

Costs & Funding

List of purchases moved to Accounting page & funding sources added there too. Mouse (talk) 12:18, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Sub-projects

The project is split into a series of smaller sub-projects. We're looking for people to volunteer to take some of them on. If you contribute to a sub-project, please add yourself to the sub-project page. If you are the first / only person working on a sub-project, put yourself down as the sub-project owner. Mouse will act as the main hub for coordination of sub-projects (defining interfaces and so on, and generally OKing designs).

Procedures & Docs

Meetings

Related Links

Events

To date, Fire Pong has been run at the following events:

  • EMF Camp 2016

Media

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