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== Fire Pong ==
== Fire Pong ==


For EMF 2016, a small group of us are working on a series of fire effects to be incorporated into an interactive game of some sort (provisionally "pong").  
For EMF 2016, a small group of us are working on a series of fire effects to be incorporated into an interactive game of some sort (provisionally "pong").  This project was inspired by Mouse's Burning Man experiences (which he never shuts up about), and a conversation on the matter with Jonty (London Hackspace) where he suggested a game of pong.  Jonty's too busy organising EMF to join the build, but is credited with the idea of pong as the game to be made.


=== Puffers (a.k.a. "Poofers") ===
See also: [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1hH7KGYgiMChjqEzuECa8e5pJw0xeeIAAZUcAsqElpqE/edit?usp=sharing Call For Collaborators] presentation.


Puffers consist of an "accumulator" tank (usually an empty gas bottle), which is filled from a "feed" tank (a full propane bottle).  The supply is regulated to somewhere up to 60 PSI.  The accumulator tank is connected to a long "barrel" through a large-bore value which can open and close quickly.  This may be a manual ball value or an electronic solenoid value.  The accumulator tank is also connected to a pilot flame at the end of the barrel, through a low-pressure regulator.
=== Costs & Funding ===


When the ball/solenoid value is opened, the medium pressure propane in the accumulator tank shoots up the barrel, and is ignited at the end by the pilot flame. This creates a brief "puff" of fire.
List of purchases moved to [[Project:Fire Pong/Accounting|Accounting]] page & funding sources added there too. [[User:Mousetad|Mouse]] ([[User talk:Mousetad|talk]]) 12:18, 15 June 2016 (UTC)


Puffers come in many sizes from hand-held to truck-mounted, and can create a puff from a few tens of centimeters tall to anything up to and exceeding 10 meters!
=== Sub-projects ===
 
The project is split into a series of smaller sub-projects. We're looking for people to volunteer to take some of them on. If you contribute to a sub-project, please add yourself to the sub-project page.  If you are the first / only person working on a sub-project, put yourself down as the sub-project owner.  [[User:Mousetad|Mouse]] will act as the main hub for coordination of sub-projects (defining interfaces and so on, and generally OKing designs).


=== Component Prices ===
* [[Fire Pong/Controllers|Oversize ping pong bat controllers]]
* [[Fire Pong/Control Box|Control box]]
* [[Fire Pong/Display|Display]]
* [[Fire Pong/Supply & Regulation|Supply & Regulation]]
* [[Fire Pong/Large Puffers|Large puffers]]
* [[Fire Pong/Small Puffers|Small puffers]]
* [[Fire Pong/Crowd Control|Crowd control]]
* [[Fire Pong/Systems Integration|Systems integration]]
* [[Fire Pong/Volunteer Management|Volunteer management]]


For the prototype, we need the following parts:
=== Procedures & Docs ===
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Component description !! Price !! Link !! Bought by !! Qty !! Cost inc shipping
|-
| Adjustable 60 PSI regulator || £14 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400903780397 ebay] || Ian || 1 || £14
|-
| Adjustable 60 PSI regulator (alternative, cheaper) Inlet Male UK Pol 5/8 BSP LH Outlet 1/4" BSP female || £11 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181864447500 ebay] || || ||
|-
| Adjustable 60 PSI regulator (alternative, even cheaper) PROPANE BUTANE BURNER TORCH ADJUSTABLE GAS REGULATOR 0.5-4 Bar || £9.35|| [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221271724791 ebay] || || ||
|-
| Propane hose 2 m with connectors (3/8 inch female left-hand thread) || £9.45 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brand-New-2m-Butane-Propane-Gas-Hose-With-Connectors-20bar-BS-EN-ISO-3821-2010-/231466082709 ebay] || Ian || 1 || £9.45
|-
| Four way splitters, OR... || £10 + £12 P&P || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230933312354 ebay / US import] || || 2 ||
|-
| ...Equal-T joints || £~ || [http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/Compression_Equal_Tees.html Gas Products] || Mouse || 3 || £11.48
|-
| Propane Tee Brass RV Fitting 3/8 Male Flare x 3/8 Male Flare x 1/4 Male Pipe || £10 + £4 P&P || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111257707741 ebay] || || ||
|-
| Medium pressure gauge || £ || || || ||
|-
| Manual ball / cutoff valve || £4.63 + £4.74 p&p || [http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/Compression_Full_Bore_Gas_Ball_Valve_22mm.html#aHA9621] || Mouse || 1 || £9.03
|-
| Small / portable propane tank 3.9 kg || £20.49 (gas, exc. deposit) || Beeston Marina || Ian || 1 || £20.49
|-
| PTFE Gas Thread Sealing Tape || £0.60 || [http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/PTFE_Gas_Thread_Sealing_Tape.html#aHA356 Gas Products] || Mouse || 2 || £3.45
|-
| Compressed gas GHS labels (x24) || £6.95 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Compressed-Gas-Labels-GHS-Regulation-Labels-Small-/261578224740 ebay] || Mouse || 1 || £6.95
|-
| Flammable GHS labels (x24) || £6.95 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flammable-Labels-GHS-Regulation-Labels-Small-/251631064114 ebay] || Mouse || 1 || £6.95
|-
| 22mm pipe cutter || £6.50 || [https://www.yell.com/biz/fix-it-all-ltd-nottingham-5927596/ fix it all] || Mouse || 1 || £6.50
|-
| 22mm copper pipe (per metre) || £4.65 || [https://www.yell.com/biz/fix-it-all-ltd-nottingham-5927596/ fix it all] || Mouse || 2 || £9.30
|-
| plumbers spanner (for 22/15 mm compression fitting nuts || £1.99 || [https://www.yell.com/biz/fix-it-all-ltd-nottingham-5927596/ fix it all] || Mouse || 1 || £1.99
|-
| 20mm pipe screen gauze (hopefully can solder it into the end of the barrel) || £2.15 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171484735149 ebay] || Mouse || 1 || £2.15
|-
| 22mm compression end caps || £1.25 || [https://www.yell.com/biz/fix-it-all-ltd-nottingham-5927596/ fix it all] || Mouse || 4 || £5.00
|-
| Dry power fire extinguisher || £11.79 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390860477840 ebay] ||  || 2 ||
|-
| 24" Pipe Wrench || £24.99 || [http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001OX9WTW?ref_=cm_sw_r_awd_IjTNwbRHVY3MP amazon] || Toby || 1 || £24.99
|-
| 22 mm olives (pack of 20) || £3.87 || B&Q || Ian || 1 || £3.87
|-
| 22 mm equal T || £4.37 || B&Q || Ian || 1 || £4.37
|-
| 1/4" gas solenoid valve 12V || £8.99 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291542004700 eBay] || Ian || 2 || £17.98
|-
| 1/4" to 15 mm solder ring adaptor (pack of 10) || £17.75 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291204518251 eBay] || Ian || 1 || £17.75
|-
| Electric BBQ igniter (2 electrodes) || £18.99 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331483455100 eBay] || Mouse || 1 || £18.99
|-
|Flash back arrestor || £12.00 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321545145267 eBay] || Ian || 1 || £12.00
|-
|Pilot light funnel || £8.00 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231450919702 eBay] || Mouse || 1 || £9.79
|-
|Black Iron 1/4" Equal T Female|| £2.53 || [http://www.bssindustrial.co.uk/ BSS] || Mouse || 1 || £2.53
|-
|Black Iron 1/4" Elbow Female|| £3.91 || [http://www.bssindustrial.co.uk/ BSS] || Mouse || 2 || £7.82
|-
|Black Iron 1/2" Nipple (2" long)|| £2.12 || [http://www.bssindustrial.co.uk/ BSS] || Mouse || 1 || £2.12
|-
|Black Iron 1/2" Equal T female|| £1.98 || [http://www.bssindustrial.co.uk/ BSS] || Mouse || 1 || £1.98
|-
|Black Iron 1/2" Stop Plug|| £0.97 || [http://www.bssindustrial.co.uk/ BSS] || Mouse || 1 || £0.97
|-
|25mm by 300mm Mild Steel Round Bar (for making tank adapters) || £9.99 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171989924756 eBay] || Mouse || 1 || £9.99
|-
|12V DC 1/4" Electric Solenoid Valve N/C for Water Air Gas Diesel 2-Way/Position || £7.89 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151995867696 eBay] || Ian || 3 || £23.67
|-
|1/2" NC Electric Solenoid Water Air Valve Diesel Gas 4 Train Horn Solid Coil 12V || £10.99 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281879003231 eBay] || Ian || 1 || £10.99
|-
|MALE IRON ADAPTERS BRASS END FEED BSP X METRIC 22MM X 1/2" || £9.99 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121174349322 eBay] || Ian || 1 || £4.69
|-
|ultra-high voltage pulse generator super arc pulse ignition coil module 1000 KV || £5.68|| [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141893405865 eBay] || Ian || 1 || £5.68
|-
|Wiimote, red, silicon || £6.49 || [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221959903939 eBay] || Mouse || 2 || £12.98
|-
|ultra-high voltage pulse generator super arc pulse ignition coil module 1000 KV || £13.99|| [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191827515756 eBay] || Ian || 1 || £13.99
|-
|1000KV Ultra-high Voltage Pulse Generator Super Arc Pulse Ignition Coil Module || £4.74|| [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272080642754? eBay] || Ian || 4 || £18.96
|-
|High-voltage Generator For DC 3.6V-6V 400KV Boost Step-up Power Module Generator || £1.64|| [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291478042037 eBay] || Ian || 1 || £16.40
|-
|}


=== Contributers ===
* [[Project:Fire Pong/Packing List]]
* [[User:Mousetad|Mouse]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong/Setup Procedure]]
* [[User:Iandickinson|Ian]]
* [[Project:Fire Pong/Playlist]]
* [[Toby]]


=== Sub-projects ===
=== Meetings ===
* Bat accelerometer controllers
* [[EMF 2016 Meeting 2015-12-10|2015-12-10]]
** basically a Wii-mote
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-01-18|2016-01-18]]
** Should have battery capable to lasting a 3 hour "show", and be recharagle / have batteries replaced overnight for next show.  Longer battery life is better
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-01-23|2016-01-23]]
** Communicate wirelessly with control box
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-05-19|2016-05-19]]
** Be good if they could pre-process use and send simply a packet with speed, angle and such, rather than have the control box interpertting accelerometer readings directly
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-06-08|2016-06-08]]
** Should be physically robust & splash / dew proof
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-06-09|2016-06-09]]
* Control box
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-06-11|2016-06-11]]
** Controls puffers via relays
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-06-16|2016-06-16]]
** Controls electro-igniters via relays
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-06-18|2016-06-18]]
** Keeps game state
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-06-19|2016-06-19]]
** Updates display unit with game state
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-07-03|2016-07-03]]
** Accepts input from bats (wireless)
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-07-08|2016-07-08]]
** Can be placed in non-game mode(s), e.g. test mode, demo mode, use up all the gas mode etc.
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-07-14|2016-07-14]]
** Should be splash / dew proof
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-07-16|2016-07-16]]
* Display unit
** Possibly using Matt Little's green segment display, or station scrolling text displays
** Should be splash / dew proof
* Pilot lights
** For big puffers
* Frame / stand for row of small puffers
** Elevate puffers from the ground a little
** Secure against gusts of wind
** Will having wiring routed over it
* Game testing


=== Links ===
=== Related Links ===
* Chat about the project happens periodically on the [https://nottinghack.slack.com/messages/emf/ EMF channel on Nottinghack slack]
* Chat about the project happens periodically on the [https://nottinghack.slack.com/messages/emf/ EMF channel on Nottinghack slack]
* Video of some nice puffers on [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMfzFIERJIg El Pulpo Mechanico]
* Video of some nice puffers on [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMfzFIERJIg El Pulpo Mechanico]
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* [http://www.newmantools.com/taps/bsp.htm BSP thread info]
* [http://www.newmantools.com/taps/bsp.htm BSP thread info]


=== Meetings ===
== Events ==
* [[EMF 2016 Meeting 2015-12-10]]
 
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-01-18|2016-01-18]]
To date, Fire Pong has been run at the following events:
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-01-23|2016-01-23]]
* EMF Camp 2016
* [[Project:Fire Pong Meeting 2016-05-19|2016-05-19]]
 
== Media ==
 
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6EBe_5LxO8 Fire Pong (Rule Zero) (Computerphile, 5min, 2016)]  
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoZMMg1r_Oc Fire Pong Details (Computerphile, 20min, 2016)]
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLau-MAHAOY
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKLKDHJ3wZA  360 degree video (2min)]
* https://hackaday.com/2016/08/11/emf-fire-pong/
* https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/fire-pong-raspberry-pi/
 
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Fire Pong

For EMF 2016, a small group of us are working on a series of fire effects to be incorporated into an interactive game of some sort (provisionally "pong"). This project was inspired by Mouse's Burning Man experiences (which he never shuts up about), and a conversation on the matter with Jonty (London Hackspace) where he suggested a game of pong. Jonty's too busy organising EMF to join the build, but is credited with the idea of pong as the game to be made.

See also: Call For Collaborators presentation.

Costs & Funding

List of purchases moved to Accounting page & funding sources added there too. Mouse (talk) 12:18, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Sub-projects

The project is split into a series of smaller sub-projects. We're looking for people to volunteer to take some of them on. If you contribute to a sub-project, please add yourself to the sub-project page. If you are the first / only person working on a sub-project, put yourself down as the sub-project owner. Mouse will act as the main hub for coordination of sub-projects (defining interfaces and so on, and generally OKing designs).

Procedures & Docs

Meetings

Related Links

Events

To date, Fire Pong has been run at the following events:

  • EMF Camp 2016

Media

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